Let's talk about Social problem in English 1-99

we can do ANYTHING against them

Let's go to φφφ樹海φφφ

no.2 ( 記入なし04/10/02 10:40 )

HAHAHAHA

no.3 ( 餓鬼04/10/02 10:42 )

No! Your life is not only yours.
There is a lot of connection between you and the world.
Maybe, there is something what you must do in this world.
Look for it! That is your purpose what you were born in this world and this age.
Never do sucide! Live on! Belive your good futures!

no.4 ( John Conner04/10/02 10:47 )

＞MR.John Conner
Hello!
Whtat happen to "very large problem ?

Coud you write japanese ?

no.5 ( 記入なし04/10/02 11:03 )

Sorry I could not speak and write Japanese...but available reading, a little...

I think it is hard age for jobless people because of economical fail by Japanese goverment.
But it is incredible lowest average of vote.
Japanese people abondon rights of participation on Politics?
If nations have trouble by government, nations must be change government.
Why...?

no.6 ( John Conner04/10/02 11:10 )

So, tell me your opinion.

no.7 ( 記入なし04/10/02 11:12 )

>no.1
I'd like to hear your opinion .
Tell me please.

I think ,Mr.下っ端公務員　answer the question.

no.8 ( 記入なし04/10/02 11:14 )

I think Japanese people is like a sheep.
Why are they feline?
Why do they admit excursion of government?

no.9 ( John Conner04/10/02 11:16 )

Can Mr.下っ端公務員　speak English?

no.10 ( 記入なし04/10/02 11:17 )

No, I am not lowest public officer.

no.11 ( John Conner04/10/02 11:18 )

＞Mr.１０
Ⅰ can't speak English.
　

no.12 ( 下っ端公務員04/10/02 11:20 )

>10
I think ,Japanese people quiet people.

no.13 ( 記入なし04/10/02 11:24 )

Yes I think so.
But that attitude makes everything worse.
Japanese people must say with a loud against Politics, or it will be more worse than now...

no.14 ( John Conner04/10/02 11:28 )

>Mr.下っ端公務員
Why can you speak english ?
You are civil servant aren't you.

no.15 ( 記入なし04/10/02 11:29 )

Can someone here speak english ? You turn!

Because I have to go to company .
Mr.John Conner Sorry, see you again.

no.16 ( 記入なし04/10/02 11:37 )

Japanese people are educated not to have their own opinion.

So, most of Japanese don't know how to express their anger or
how to blame bad politicians.

no.17 ( 記入なし04/10/02 11:38 )

>>16
Bye...

no.18 ( John Conner04/10/02 11:39 )

I agree it.
Japanese need reform of education system previously reform of politics.

no.19 ( John Conner04/10/02 11:43 )

But it will take time to reform education system.

no.20 ( 記入なし04/10/02 11:49 )

>19
Yes I think so too. (but I'm Jajanese・・・）

no.21 ( 記入なし04/10/02 11:50 )

>19
Yes I think so too. (but I'm Japanese・・・）

no.22 ( 21 04/10/02 11:52 )

I think like this.
The government wasted the tax and became financial difficulties.
The government is interested only in increasing tax and saving of a tax now. So, The government is difficult to consider jobless people.

no.23 ( 記入なし04/10/02 12:08 )

It is natural...it is no alternative but to rebuild finance.
The most important way for jobless people is making a job(money) by yourself not only relying on government or company.

Japanese people have idea of Poor Dad, they must have a idea of Rich Dad.

Sorry, I must go out now, thanks of talking.
It is very interesting!

no.24 ( John Conner04/10/02 12:21 )

ジョン　コナー　ってターミネ-ターか？
みんな翻訳ソフト使って必死だね。

no.25 ( 記入なし04/10/02 12:25 )

翻訳ソフトは使ってません。
買う金がない、ははは。

no.26 ( 記入なし04/10/02 12:26 )

エキサイト翻訳とかみんな使っていそう。

no.27 ( 記入なし04/10/02 12:28 )

あれ使えません。
訳ひどいっすよ。

no.28 ( 記入なし04/10/02 12:39 )

私も、翻訳ソフトは使ってませんでしたよ・・・
It's eazy English.

no.29 ( 記入なし04/10/02 23:58 )

みんなすげえな。
何で無職なの？
俺なんかよりすげえ人間が無職だと自信なくなるじゃないか。

no.30 ( 記入なし04/10/03 00:00 )

何、書いてあるの？　アホカ？？　読めねえよ

no.31 ( 記入なし04/10/03 00:05 )

いや、みんな凄いね！
正直言って、私はコナー氏のカキコの意味がイマイチ・・・　＿|￣|○
　　　　　　　　　
ところで「下っ端公務員」を、
すぐに「lowest public officer」と言えるあたり、
ネイティブだとは思えないんですけどね（＾＾；　　　　　　　　　
　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　

no.32 ( 下っ端公務員04/10/03 00:07 )

　　　　　　自慢か？

no.33 ( 記入なし04/10/03 00:08 )

なんか、異様なまでに易しい英語で書かれているような・・・。
日本人かな？1さんって、実は。

no.34 ( 記入なし04/10/03 00:11 )

通訳、翻訳、英語教師などで、食えるじゃないか！
無職の投稿じゃないな？

no.35 ( 記入なし04/10/03 00:12 )

rat-race から抜け出せってこと？

no.36 ( 記入なし04/10/03 00:13 )

>35
中学生レベルの英語だったりしない？
ほんとは高校生が投稿してるんじゃない？

no.37 ( 記入なし04/10/03 00:15 )

俺は無能者だから、36の英語は分からないが、
つまり、３５は、１以外の英語が分かるレス者のこと言ってるのだよ！
３５より。

no.38 ( 記入なし04/10/03 00:16 )

>38
私の勘違い。ごめんなさい。
NO37より

no.39 ( 記入なし04/10/03 00:21 )

英語だけじゃないが、外国語は頭の柔い、幼い頃から覚えるのが本当なんだよ。
つまり、自然な覚え方であり、無理をする必要もないからね。
なんでも、いい年した人間が無理するのはストレスの元。

no.40 ( 記入なし04/10/03 00:24 )

Hi, John Conner

I just want to ask you a simple question. Are you talking about Japan or the world? The answer is going to be different depend upon which side we are in.

no.41 ( 記入なし04/10/03 00:43 )

＞41
>The answer is going to be different depend upon which side we are in.

I think ,that's right.

no.42 ( 記入なし04/10/03 01:20 )

Hello, Mr.No41...I would like to answer your simple question.

I was born in Tokyo but I grew up in L.A. by 20 years old.
My dad is the citizen of USA, but my mam is Japanese.
So, maybe, I have two point of sight, as American and Japanese...when I think about something.
But I want to know true idea of ordinary Japanese citizen, I hope you tell me some topics or other things from the standpoint of Japanese.

no.43 ( John Conner04/10/03 01:22 )

Please You sould find that yourself.

no.44 ( 4204/10/03 01:54 )

しかし、下っ端公務員さんの話題が出てくるとすぐ本人が出て来てレスするから不思議ですよね
たまたまなのかなぁ

no.45 ( 記入なし04/10/03 02:49 )

＞45
たまたまでは、ない　と思うけど・・

no.46 ( 記入なし04/10/03 10:35 )

Oh,what a broken English is spoken on the board!
It is much useless to practice speaking and writing English wihtout authoriized grammer and words.

no.47 ( 記入なし04/10/03 11:12 )

It is no matter what is glammer is good or bad!
Most important thing is how he want to communicate with others.

no.48 ( 記入なし04/10/03 11:39 )

＞47
So what?

＞48
Yes,I think so too.

no.49 ( 記入なし04/10/03 12:43 )

まあ確かにそうだが、
よく読むと１の最後から二行目はよく意味がわからない。

「何がこの問題の責任なのか？」ではなくて、「何がこの問題の原因なのか？」と聞きたいのではないか？

語彙と文法の壊れ方がnative English speakerの文章とは思えないのだが。
NipponのHigh school studentのEnglish practiceじゃないかと思う所存。

あと、ネイティブは「I think」をそれほど連発しない。「I think」と言うときは譲歩表現なので、断定を実際には避けた表現になるよ。

no.50 ( 記入なし04/10/03 13:56 )

>>50
>NipponのHigh school studentのEnglish practiceじゃないかと思う所存。

というより、やはり中学生英語クラスだと思う。
または易しく書いてくれているのかもね。どうでもいいけど。

no.51 ( 記入なし04/10/03 14:00 )

＞＞50
掲示板の性質上断定して書き込みする事でも無いように思うけど・・
答えているのは、日本人？だと思うから、ネイティブイングリッシュスピーカーのようには、いかないと思いますよ。
まあ、どうでもいいけどね・・・

no.52 ( 記入なし04/10/03 14:14 )

ネイティヴだと思うけどねえ。

それに、ネイティヴはわざわざややこしい文章作らないんじゃないかな。
Nipponの high school studentなら、
なおさら日本語から英語に直そうとしそうだから、
responsibilityより、causeなんか使いそう。

どっちでもいいんだけどさ。

no.53 ( 記入なし04/10/03 14:15 )

＞53さん
まあ、どうでもいいけど・・・（笑
スレ主は日本とＵＳＡのハーフで
答えているのは、日本人？だと思うけど・・・
まあ、どうでもいいけど・・・（笑

no.54 ( 記入なし04/10/03 14:24 )

ＬＡで育った20歳といってるからネイティブでしょうね・・・スレ主は・・

no.55 ( 記入なし04/10/03 14:28 )

Mr, John Conner

Japanese are not so disappointed about their problems.
If they are, more people must go the poll.
They(We) are not so stupid as you think.

The unemployment rate in U.S is worse than in Japan.
U.S has racial segregation and more poor pleople.
Why don't you argue more with your government over the problems?

How about Iraqi war?
Many people including quite innocent children and women in Iraq died in the war.
you are right?

American people must do discuss about yours.
you are more quiet than sheep.

no.58 ( a sheep04/10/03 14:44 )

＞58 a sheep

Are you japanese?

＞Mr.John Conner

whtat is your nationality?

no.59 ( 記入なし04/10/03 14:52 )

＞58 a sheep

Are you japanese?

＞Mr.John Conner

whtat is your nationality?・・・・both？

no.60 ( 記入なし04/10/03 14:54 )

「I think.」っていう付け足しは、普通「私は～だと、（慎重に判断して）思う」と言うニュアンスだから曖昧な言い方になる。表現を和らげるときにつかうとか。

１はやっぱり変だよ。
動詞とか抜けてるし単数・複数の使い分けもデタラメ、さらに前置詞の抜けがやたらに多い。
やさしく書いたどころか、こちらから想像してだいぶ補填しないと理解できない文章だよ。

ネイティブだとすればあまり賢い書き方じゃない。
意図して優しくしているとすれば、日本の教育を云々できるほど実際の日本の英語教育の知識がないことになるか、だいぶ舐めてるかのどっちか。
全体的に、社会問題をネタに出来るだけの知識がある人とは思えない。
話のテーマと言葉の運用能力の間にこんなに違いがあるのはどう見ても変。
ネイティブだろうがそうでなかろうが、いきがってる高校生っぽい。

あるいは世界が想像以上に広くて、
こんなに母語の運用能力が低くても立派に政治経済文化を論ずることの出来る国があるのかな？

ところで、Hey,John！
君は日本人は「自分の意見を言えるように教育されてない」って言ってたけれど、
It seems that it`s much the same case as you have done on this board!
What you wrote here are nothing but the totally stereotyped opinions.
How is your original opinion about Japanese arguments,such as culture、economics ＆ politics？
Tell me please, John“the Hero”Corner!

no.61 ( 記入なし04/10/03 16:42 )

>John Conner

Japan is a rich country in the world. Nobody dies of hunger.
Japanese government assists jobless people financially with the unemployment insurance.

Almost people have personal hundy phones, cars, computers and use internet
just like this, even if they do not have a job now.
Young girls compete to buy Italian and French brand bags and clothes,
and put them on.

Look other poor countries in the world. Some people are starving to death,
and some people can not buy only a cheap medicine.

no.62 ( Powered by NOVA04/10/03 17:17 )

Sure, the people in Japan and USA and other advanced country, they can live
on peace and richment life without fear of death.
But these are comprised only comparing economical power of country.
And advanced country's richiment is cosequence of exploitation from developed
country.
In terms of them, we must introspect... but alomost every people may forget it,
or never think or accept nitty-gritty without thinking.

From the standpoint of developed country, still socialy weakly people exploit
their small wealth from government or something what have strong power.
That is like a relations of King and Slave.

But in advanced country have also same problem.
For instance, in United States, White Anglosaxon Protestant (WASP) dominate
poor white and Nigro, Hispanic and Native american. They have little chance
going up socially. I think this is more serious problem.

Maybe, Japan have also same problem attribute from structure of discrimination,
even though no conscious of race.
May be that the histry of education or job experience?
In Japan, it is very difficult no experienced people get a job.

But I proud that United States give chance for every people.
(However, it is not always equal..)
Yesterday's Ichiro's success is typical case, do you think so?

There was same case in Japan, when Rndy Bath(Hanshin Tigers) had a chance of
the Homerun King record, Japanese want to keep OH's record, and they were
walked Bath without duel.

So, the society of United States is... if someone hope and try to be success,
he have more probability than Japanese society.
Maybe, this is the difference attribute from the way of thinking.

no.63 ( JC04/10/03 19:01 )

我々は、イチローでもランディーバースでもないんだよな～。

no.64 ( 記入なし04/10/03 19:22 )

Noway, Randy Bass had a great success in Japan, not in YOUR GREAT
CONTRY just attacks weaker land and kills people there.

Why can't a Negro became the President in America?
you say every people can get a chance equally to succeed in US, don't you?

no.65 ( unknown04/10/03 20:02 )

The reason why Nigro cannot be President is the problem on the average of
the human race's population?

United States's human race population occupy 75% White and 25% Non-White
(Nigro, Hispanic, Native American, Asian...).

So, principle of democracy made white selected white as President of U.S.

The root of this problem might have the unconcious segrigation in white people.

I hope good day (what is no one judge by color of his skin) will be comming...

no.66 ( 記入なし04/10/03 20:34 )

仕事探しの話はしないの？ねー、みんな。

no.67 ( 記入なし04/10/03 20:36 )

Do you talk about JOB searching? Hey, Everyone?

no.68 ( 記入なし04/10/03 20:39 )

アメリカで10年に一度行われる本格的な国勢調査は明2000年4月に実施されるが、同紙はそれに先立ち、国勢調査局(CB)の資料および専門家の見解を集めて思い切った推測を行っている。それによると、2025年にはアメリカでの白人の人口比率が急速に減り、逆にヒスパニック系が最大の少数派となる。それ以上に注目されるのは、多人種、多民族（白人、黒人、ヒスパニック系、アジア系）の混血の人々が2050年には現在の3倍増となり、人口比では21％に達するという。アメリカでは理論的には可能でも実現は不可能といわれた「メルティングポット」が実現して、多人種多民族の血が混じりあった真の「アメリカ人」が誕生するというわけだ。

http://www.tenri-u.ac.jp/tngai/americas/files/newsltrs/29/29lateral.kitadume.html

no.69 ( 記入なし04/10/03 20:44 )

American government must receive a lot of criticism from all over the world
about Iraqi war.
So, please don't invite Japanese Army to your dance party in Iraq, and don't
require money for the party.
Japanese government want to use the money for jobless people. hehe...

no.70 ( 記入なし04/10/03 20:59 )

Japanese government want to use the money for jobless people. hehe
↑
本当か？生保なんか、審査厳しい。

no.71 ( 記入なし04/10/03 21:03 )

結局、雇用問題など、込み入った話は、できない。
おおまかな話程度の英語力。
ま、おれは英語力ないから、日本語で書くけど。

no.72 ( 記入なし04/10/03 21:06 )

Misstake?

(Right) I want Japanese government use money for jobless people.

???

no.73 ( No Discription04/10/03 21:06 )

want＋Ｎ＋to＋Ｖ　文法的にはtoがいるんじゃね。

no.74 ( 記入なし04/10/03 21:11 )

That “Which is right on the case of baseball is always the same as other cases,such as economy and politics.” is not always logically correct.

The unexperienced cannot easily get a job,today in Japan.
But in US, is the situation not so different,isn`t it?

And then, the“equal chnaces”which are insuranced in your country by the US goverment are also enabled by exploited richment from the Third Worlds through the dominaiton your US and our Japan and every other advanced  countries are executing,as you have expressed on this bbs by yourself.

The country differs, the way differs.
It is important to think abou the different people like in Iraki if they read the conversations we made,who are living in the countries exploiting  them.

If the people in the adovanced  country can get the same quality of living as the wealthy people has,
the exploitation will get more threatening to the Third Worlds,because the richment will be more needed and the exploitation will get more serious.
Do you hope that the exploitation will be strengthend and your living will be more usefull and convienient by the victim swho live in the poor country?

no.75 ( 記入なし04/10/03 21:17 )

Sorry,the message I wrote is to JC.

no.76 ( 7604/10/03 21:19 )

ワールド・ダウンタウン？

no.77 ( 記入なし04/10/03 21:32 )

日本に来たら日本に従えで、日本語で書き込みするよう配慮して頂きたいものだ。
人を試す場じゃないんだから。

no.78 ( 記入なし04/10/03 22:50 )

Jerky inoccupation is really unavoidable.
Since it is this, we do not abstain to adopt them.
Although it is anyhow good well....

no.79 ( 記入なし04/10/04 07:08 )

we abstain to adopt them

no.80 ( 記入なし04/10/04 07:09 )

In America, the 30s or elders often go to a college to study a technical knowledge,
and they make a chance to get a better job.
But in Japan, it is rarely elder people learn something professional in a college.

Japanese big companies engage only young new garaduates or much experienced persons.
It is quite difficult a person without a special knowledge is employed by such a big company.

People working in a small company have always some troubles, such as a few salary, dismissal,
and blankruptcy.

BIG COMPANIEEEEEEEEEES!! CAN YOU HEAR ME? GIVE ME A CHANCE, AND HIRE ME NOW!!!!!!!!

no.81 ( 記入なし04/10/04 13:16 )

アンニョンハセヨ

no.82 ( 記入なし04/10/04 13:47 )

No companies would hire me but fire.

no.83 ( 記入なし04/10/04 14:02 )

IMPOSSIBLE IS JUST A BIG WORD THROWN AROUND BY SMALL MEN WHO FIND
IT EASIER TO LIVE IN A WORLD THEY'VE BEEN GIVEN THAN TO
EXPLORE THE POWER THEY HAVE TO CHANGE IT. IMPOSSIBLE IS NOT A FACT.
IT'S AN OPINION. IMPOSSIBLE IS NOT A DECLARATION. IT'S A DARE.
IMPOSSIBLE IS POTENTIAL. IMPOSSIBLE IS TEMPORARY.

no.84 ( 記入なし04/10/04 14:08 )

ＡＢＣＤＥＦＧ

no.85 ( 記入なし04/10/04 14:18 )

８４の訳

「不可能」とは、自らの力で世界を切り拓くことを放棄した、臆病者の言葉だ。
「不可能」とは、現状に甘んじるための言い訳にすぎない。
「不可能」とは、事実ですらなく、単なる先入観だ。
「不可能」とは、誰かに決めつけられることではない。
「不可能」とは、通過点だ。
「不可能」とは、可能性だ。
「不可能」なんて、ありえない。

no.86 ( 記入なし04/10/04 14:26 )

不可能なんてありえないか～

no.87 ( 記入なし04/10/04 14:35 )

アディダスのマネゴト??

no.88 ( 記入なし04/10/04 17:20 )

アディダス？

no.89 ( 記入なし04/10/04 17:21 )

Today I went to job interview. And I talked with president over 2 hours.
President of the company has very large dream.
Though the company is so small, but I feel a lot of capability for the future
of the company.
President entrusted me bringing on board or not.
I must answer tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, entry or not.
I will....

no.90 ( UNKNOWN04/10/04 22:38 )

＞90

Are you japanese ？
国内企業？外資系企業？
どんな会社？

no.91 ( 記入なし04/10/04 23:08 )

I am Japanese. The company is domestic.
Line of work is total planning of construction specialize in commercial facilities.

no.92 ( UNKNOWN04/10/04 23:14 )

I am Japanese. The company is domestic.
Line of work is total planning of construction specialize in commercial facilities.

no.93 ( UNKNOWN04/10/04 23:14 )

Lucky you. You should take the proposal.
on the other hand, I haven't had even job interview for long.

no.94 ( 記入なし04/10/04 23:55 )

i gotta admit that i'm so damn tired of searching for jobs. why the hell did i even go to an international school since 5 years old to high school and on top of that, go to a pretty good college in the states...the money invested on my education isn't paying me back right now. and it's all because of the stupid economy...or not.

no.95 ( 記入なし04/10/16 01:07 )

>>95
I think that English is tool for communication, not tool for job.
But ability of English make you to be good business person.
Because you can communicate with not only Japanese but also all of English
Speaker in the world.
This ability have advantage than someone who can talk only domestic language.

Continue to try, and you can get something good.

no.96 ( 記入なし04/10/16 18:55 )

Welcome here, GAKI!

no.97 ( 記入なし04/10/17 12:03 )

I did it!!!
I've got a job!!!!!
Banzai! and good bye, musyoku.com!

no.98 ( Good Bye, musyoku.com!04/10/21 17:45 )

ライブドアのページ翻訳でも訳せないのだが・・・

no.99 ( 記入なし04/10/21 17:52 )